Monday, April 11, 2011

Editorial

The fourth Amendment
#10
Tanner Tomasi
4/11/2011
There are two sides to every story.A boy named Jack Gilbert was searched at his school in Texas. One of the kids at Jack’s school had told the principal that they had saw jack out behind the school smoking some weed. Jack ends up being searched at school and his mother and he bring the case to court. The court ends up ruling for the school. With that example Schools should have the ability to search students, when they have reasonable cause and contraband that invokes other students lives and learning environment. Imagine yourself in this situation, if someone searched you for an object that was a violation of the school rules, wouldn’t you feel awkward and embarrassed? Then why would you risk being known as a hooligan and putting the well being of others in danger? Think about it, student searches are the key to preserving our schools and our community.
The term and meaning of contraband is basically anything that’s prohibited by law. For the topic of student searches some contraband examples could be a pack of cigarettes, marijuana, cocaine, heroin, a knife, weed, or a gun that is brought to school. In addition the term and meaning for a reasonable cause is when a person has been, is, or is about to be become engaged in a crime that usually involves a contraband. This activity is based on specific and clear facts and inferences that one is about to do something bad. An example for reasonable cause is if Bob hears about Jack going to interfere with illegal substances at the school and jack decided to tell a teacher .Then that right there is enough evidence for reasonable cause. Why this is that way is because at school teachers and counselors must act like in loco parentis. This word in loco parentis means "in the place of a parent" or "instead of a parent,” this means that the school adults are basically the parents of the kids at the school until they get home.
Student searches are needed to protect everyone in the school. Like Officer Flore says, “Everything I do must fit the U.S. Constitution & Vermont Constitution and secure the safety of others.” Flore makes a point by supporting student searches because it falls under the democratic ideal of the common good. According to “Teen Drug Abuse website” these were the results from a school gathering in New Jersey about Illicit teen drug use in the year of 2003. 8th grade 30.3%, 10th grade 44.9%, 12th grade 52.8%. This example represents why we need student searches in schools. In a case called New Jersey vs. Tracy Lois Odem January 15, 1985. These two girls are caught smoking on the school grounds. Then are brought into the principal’s office were their bags are searched. What the principal found were a large amount of money, marijuana and a list of people that owed her money for the drugs. Later when this is brought to the court the principal ends up winning the case, not to mention that one of the school rules was that smoking was prohibited on the school grounds. With that rule that the girls had broken, it was pretty clear that the principal had the right to search those girl, because they had already broken a school rule. I agree with the outcome of this case, because the student was already breaking some of the schools rule, so the fact that the school won this case was good. This cases outcome fits my argument because it connects with my statement of how student searches will help secure the safety of others. If the principal hadn’t caught those two girls there could have been many things that could have happen. They could have gone on a rampage for the people that owed them money or they could have just done something bad or stupid from an overdose of marijuana. This case shows a great example of why student searches are needed for schools.
My second argument is that student searches are needed to secure our learning environment. In a case called Washington vs. Chrisman January 13, 1982. On one night at a college, a police man was out on the campus, when he spotted this young man with a half gallon milk jug that was filled with gin. So he went over to the young man to see if he had identification, what ends up happening is that the young man didn’t have it so they went to his dorm to go and get it. When they get to his dorm the police man stands in the door way and when he glanced in the room he noticed a lot of illegal drugs. He asks the young men’s if he could search the room, and if they wanted he would get a warrant. However the young men’s said no that it was alright so the police man searches there room. Later on one of the young men brought this case to the court and the case ends up with the policeman winning the case (Opposing Viewpoints.) I agree with the ruling of this case because the campus had a set of rules and one of them was that any type of alcohol was prohibited on the campus. Once again this case does uphold with my argument. This case is important because it shows a good representation for my argument of how student searches are needed to secure and protect our learning environment.
The arguments that are against my side are the fact that student searches are a violation to the student’s privacy. My focus case was called Safford Unified School District v. Redding in 2003. This was a wonderful example for someone’s privacy being invaded. It’s about a thirteen year old girl named Savana Redding who was striped searched at her school because one of her classmates had told the principal that she had been selling ibuprofen to some of her classmates. The supreme courts end up ruling in favor with an 8-1 vote for Savana Redding. I do agree with the Supreme Court ruling for that case because the school officials didn’t even have a good reasonable cause or a dangerous contraband. Then the fact that they went into a strip search, I do believe that this was taken too far and was over the top making it an intrusive search. Poor Savana Redding dropped out of school and became home schooled because the school violated her privacy and that made it uncomfortable for her. I understand why they don’t want to do student searches, because of outcomes like this, however if you think about it like I said before the Safford guidance people didn’t not have much evidence about Savana and her “drug dealing” of ibuprofen. This was bad on their part. Although not every case comes close in situation wise like this case, because know days the type of search depends on the certain contraband that one has. As Bud Allen said at panel day “We chip away at our rights for safety “when he said this he explained to us that Americans are trying to remove the bad stuff out of our lives. Although we are losing rights that we will never get back because of our fear of what might happen. I don’t agree with Bud Allen, but I will say that he does make a good point. Even though were chipping at our rights to freedom it’s not like it’s just certain people who are loosing their rights. It’s everyone and also its making sure that everyone one is staying alive and safe.
Even though our founding fathers made the Constitution and said that “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.” (Find Law: U.S Constitution.) They were right when they said this however that was in the olden days where people weren’t on the internet finding out how to get high off house hold supplies. Overall people need to know that we can’t have everything that they want, and many people should agree with student searches for those reasons. Like Matt Warren said “In order for our world too run properly today some people’s rights are going to be violated in order to keep everyone safe on this planet. It’s like making sure that someone doesn’t bring a bomb on the planes, it violates people privacy to be searched but at the same time its making sure that everyone will be safe.” This example is just like student searching because it will make sure that the students are safe, and have the ability to learn in a learning environment.
Lastly for my call to action I would like everyone to imagine and realize how much we will be doing if we start using student searches for the better of our education and lives in school. And that’s why I believe schools should have the ability to search students. As they have a good amount of reasonable cause and contraband that fits the intrusiveness of search.

Scalia, Antonin. "Random Drug Tests on Student-Athletes Do Not Violate the Right to Privacy." Opposing Viewpoints: Civil Liberties. Ed. Tamara L. Roleff. San Diego: Greenhaven Press, 1999. Opposing Viewpoints Resource Center. Gale. Champlain Valley Union High School. 1 Apr. 2010 .

"Washington v. Chrisman." Great American Court Cases. Detroit: Gale Group, 1999. Opposing Viewpoints Resource Center. Gale. Champlain Valley Union High School. 1 Apr. 2010 .



Scalia, Antonin. "Random Drug Tests on Student-Athletes Do Not Violate the Right to Privacy." Opposing Viewpoints: Civil Liberties. Ed. Tamara L. Roleff. San Diego: Greenhaven Press, 1999. Opposing Viewpoints Resource Center. Gale. Champlain Valley Union High School. 1 Apr. 2010 .

Wednesday, April 6, 2011

What is student search...?


Student searches are law officials searching students for any weapons and dangerous/ illegal substances. Many kids have been caught bringing drugs and alcohol to school; some are even known to bring in knives. From personal knowledge, that student searches in schools are a violation of the fourth amendment. Student searches are controversial because there are two sides to the story, and you have to perform the right search for each situation. That brings in the common Good which is… the public or common good requires that individual citizens have the commitment and motivation-that they accept their obligation –to promote the welfare of the community and to work together with other members for the greater benefit of all. And also brings in the pursuit of happiness which is…It is the right of citizens in the American constitutional democracy to attempt to attain – “pursuit” – happiness in their own way, so long as they do not infringe upon the rights of others. These two democratic ideals are hypocritical, because if a student has liberty then they shouldn’t be searched. But if you want to help common good, they you have to search them.

Friday, April 1, 2011

Stakeholders

Con= Lawyer, students, ACLU
These groups are against student searches. Individual lawyers and the American Civil Liberties Union, known as the ACLU, are against student searches because their job is to keep people from breaking the Constitution, and they interpret student searches as a violation of the Constitution, specifically the 4th Amendment and its protections against “unreasonable search and seizure.” Many students are against it because we are here in school to learn, they are not there to cause trouble, even though some students bring in weapons or drugs.

Pro= police, principals, parents, students.
All these people are for searching students, but for slightly different reasons. Police and school principale mainly have the same reason. They want to keep the community safe, and for principles they want to keep the kids and the school safe. Some students do support student searches, because they don’t want to put themselves in danger. These students feel like it is better to be safe than sorry. Although student searches infringe students 4th Amendment protection, it is necessary because they would rather increase safety then to guarantee privacy.

Thursday, March 31, 2011

My Interview

Warren, Matt. Personal interview. March 28, 2011
When I did this interview with matt warren I didn’t really know what to expect it was sort of wired because we sort of agreed on the same things. Anyways as you can see this is the interview that I had with matt and we basically talked about the one time that he got searched. Then how that become to what it was and also how it affects him and then his thought about student searches. The purpose of this interview was to see how a student’s point of view of searches is and then also for my interview because I did to do it so I just chose him. Like I said before it was really fun talking to matt. He really wasn’t bias and I liked that a lot about him, we had a lot in common about the topic. Talking was very helpful and it was valuable because at the beginning of the interview I thought that he was going to have a negative point of view saying that police man are bad and all that. But it turned out that he and I were on the same page saying that schools do need student searches to both make sure that everyone in the school is safe and that they can keep a learning environment. My evidence are my questions which I will staple to this and one of the quotes that I liked that he said was when I asked him about if he thought that searches were a violation to the kids privacy and he said. “Now it’s for the protection of the people, and it’s sort of like the searches at the airports, no one seems to complain about those, but we need them to keep our schools safe.” Which I think is so right that student searches are just like airport searches there not there to make you mad but to make sure that we are all safe and can have a good time either flying to somewhere or learning something new in the class room.


Lindsey. Personal interview. March 29, 2011
My interview with Lindsey went real well, it went well because she and I disagreed with each other. I asked Lindsey a lot of questions, such as, how did you get involved with this topic?
How many years have you had in this topic?
Have you had any personal connections to student searches at CVU or any other school?
How many years have you been working as a house director?
Have you had any personal connections to student searches at CVU or any other school?
What is your opinion on the Safford vs. Redding case if you have heard about it?
Do you think the problems occurring around the Safford Vs Redding case have an effect on our enjoinment if so, what kind of effects?
Do you believe that student searches are good if they are used the right way?
Do you think that CVU has quit a lot of problems with people bringing restricted stuff to school?
Are there times when you have had to be part of a student search if so, what was it like?
Do you think that student searches should be in place?
Do you think schools need warrants to do searches on student?
I thought it was great to hear her opinion and thoughts. Lindsey didn’t think that students should be getting searched, even though her job is to see if kids are bringing bad things to school. This is what Lindsey said word for word. “In order to bypass the legal reasonable suspicion requirement, and because searches can be humiliating, the search is often made less obvious, for example, many homeless shelters require a mandatory shower prior to entry. Most prisons also include a mandatory shower along with a change of clothes. The shower serves to make the search less obvious as well as providing the additional benefit of removing contamination (in addition to removing weapons or other contraband”). That is Lindsey opinion; I think it’s a superb argument.

Friday, March 25, 2011

Issue explanation
Student searches are law officials searching students for any weapons and dangerous/ illegal substances. Many kids have been caught bringing drugs and alcohol to school; some are even known to bring in knives. From personal knowledge, that student searches in schools are a violation of the fourth amendment. Student searches are controversial because there are two sides to the story, and you have to perform the right search for each situation. That brings in the common Good which is… the public or common good requires that individual citizens have the commitment and motivation-that they accept their obligation –to promote the welfare of the community and to work together with other members for the greater benefit of all. And also brings in the pursuit of happiness which is…It is the right of citizens in the American constitutional democracy to attempt to attain – “pursuit” – happiness in their own way, so long as they do not infringe upon the rights of others. These two democratic ideals are hypocritical, because if a student has liberty then they shouldn’t be searched. But if you want to help common good, they you have to search them.

Scalia, Antonin. "Random Drug Tests on Student-Athletes Do Not Violate the Right to Privacy." Opposing Viewpoints: Civil Liberties. Ed. Tamara L. Roleff. San Diego: Greenhaven Press, 1999. Opposing Viewpoints Resource Center. Gale. Champlain Valley Union High School. 1 Apr. 2010 .

"Washington v. Chrisman." Great American Court Cases. Detroit: Gale Group, 1999. Opposing Viewpoints Resource Center. Gale. Champlain Valley Union High School. 1 Apr. 2010 .



Scalia, Antonin. "Random Drug Tests on Student-Athletes Do Not Violate the Right to Privacy." Opposing Viewpoints: Civil Liberties. Ed. Tamara L. Roleff. San Diego: Greenhaven Press, 1999. Opposing Viewpoints Resource Center. Gale. Champlain Valley Union High School. 1 Apr. 2010 .

Constitutional connection

The 4th amendment, 'The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
This amendment is saying that, people should have their own wrights, and that Wright shouldn’t be violated. But if you feel that a person has something bad on them, then they should be searched.
I feel that this is hypocritical because there saying that everyone has a right and it shouldn’t be violated, but if you feel that someone has something on them then you should search them…?

Current interpretation

In Safford vs. Redding the school had lost the case on appeal, because they didn’t have enough evidence to justify searching Savanna Redding. In Savanna’s case her probable cause was not as imperative as having a gun. Say if Savanna was being accused of having a gun on her, than the strip search would have been justify. But the fact that she was accused of having ibuprofen, and she got strip searched, that’s just crossing the line. This ruling is an example of how searching of students is debated in the world today.
Here are some guidelines from year of 2002, these laws have not changed by much at all, and also these rules connect well with Savanna’s case.
• A search is justified at inception when reasonable suspicion indicates that the search will revile evidence that the student has violated school rules.
• When a student is the only person present at the time of the rule violation.